Comments on: Cardinals catchers versus the stolen base http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/2009/02/03/cardinals-catchers-versus-the-stolen-base/ An Unofficial St. Louis Cardinals baseball blog. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:15:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cardinal pitchers versus the stolen base | Pitchers Hit Eighth :: A St. Louis Cardinals blog http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/2009/02/03/cardinals-catchers-versus-the-stolen-base/#comment-21586 Cardinal pitchers versus the stolen base | Pitchers Hit Eighth :: A St. Louis Cardinals blog Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:17:30 +0000 http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/?p=593#comment-21586 [...] base. We’ve already taken a cursory look at the Cards defense against the running game and the efforts made by Cardinal catchers toward the same [...] [...] base. We’ve already taken a cursory look at the Cards defense against the running game and the efforts made by Cardinal catchers toward the same [...]

]]> By: 2009 Cardinals Player Grades: Catcher (Nick) | Pitchers Hit Eighth :: A St Louis Cardinals blog http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/2009/02/03/cardinals-catchers-versus-the-stolen-base/#comment-16563 2009 Cardinals Player Grades: Catcher (Nick) | Pitchers Hit Eighth :: A St Louis Cardinals blog Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:15:42 +0000 http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/?p=593#comment-16563 [...] last tidbit, as a point of interest of yours truly: Cardinal catchers (and pitchers, arguably) only allowed 44 stolen bases on the season, lowest in [...] [...] last tidbit, as a point of interest of yours truly: Cardinal catchers (and pitchers, arguably) only allowed 44 stolen bases on the season, lowest in [...]

]]> By: PHE http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/2009/02/03/cardinals-catchers-versus-the-stolen-base/#comment-2662 PHE Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:05:14 +0000 http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/?p=593#comment-2662 Great question - other than at retrosheet.org - they're not really tracked. They are not included in caught stealing. See Yadi's retrosheet page: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/M/Pmoliy001.htm Not surprisingly, Yadi has led the league in catcher pickoffs in three of his five seasons. He has 27 career pickoffs. What did surprise me was how adept Matheny apparently was at the art of the catcher pickoff as well. Matheny led the league in catcher pickoffs in 2000, 2001, and 2002. Leads me to believe that is a Cardinal-taught thing, and their strong arms make it possible. Another great piece of evidence for the puzzle, Sarah - thanks for the suggestion! Great question – other than at retrosheet.org – they’re not really tracked. They are not included in caught stealing. See Yadi’s retrosheet page:

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/M/Pmoliy001.htm

Not surprisingly, Yadi has led the league in catcher pickoffs in three of his five seasons. He has 27 career pickoffs.

What did surprise me was how adept Matheny apparently was at the art of the catcher pickoff as well. Matheny led the league in catcher pickoffs in 2000, 2001, and 2002.

Leads me to believe that is a Cardinal-taught thing, and their strong arms make it possible.

Another great piece of evidence for the puzzle, Sarah – thanks for the suggestion!

]]> By: Sarah-bug http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/2009/02/03/cardinals-catchers-versus-the-stolen-base/#comment-2660 Sarah-bug Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:38:14 +0000 http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/?p=593#comment-2660 Oh, I have a question, too (and it may be a stupid one)--where do pick-offs (at first) factor in for the catcher's stats? Do they get lumped in with put-outs or do they count as caught-stealing? Oh, I have a question, too (and it may be a stupid one)–where do pick-offs (at first) factor in for the catcher’s stats? Do they get lumped in with put-outs or do they count as caught-stealing?

]]> By: Sarah-bug http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/2009/02/03/cardinals-catchers-versus-the-stolen-base/#comment-2659 Sarah-bug Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:32:37 +0000 http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/?p=593#comment-2659 This is amazing! Can't wait for tomorrow! :) This is amazing! Can’t wait for tomorrow! :)

]]> By: PHE http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/2009/02/03/cardinals-catchers-versus-the-stolen-base/#comment-2658 PHE Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:23:56 +0000 http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/?p=593#comment-2658 Agreed - it was really fascinating to me to see the number of attempts drop when Matheny and Molina were on board - as well as the number of attempts increased against certain backups, when Yadi or Matheny weren't in the lineup. I think some of the information about the pitchers may surprise as well. Agreed – it was really fascinating to me to see the number of attempts drop when Matheny and Molina were on board – as well as the number of attempts increased against certain backups, when Yadi or Matheny weren’t in the lineup.

I think some of the information about the pitchers may surprise as well.

]]> By: undorgre http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/2009/02/03/cardinals-catchers-versus-the-stolen-base/#comment-2657 undorgre Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:20:06 +0000 http://www.pitchershiteighth.com/?p=593#comment-2657 I'm on board 100% with the notion that CS% is only one factor in evaluating catchers holistically. Since Yadi became the Cardinals catcher one things that I've always touted to people is the value he brings by decreasing the number of attempts against the Cardinals. I'd much rather have a catcher that only throws out 25% of 70 SB attempts than a catcher that throws out 40% of 110 SB attempts. I'll look forward to your analysis of the pitchers, which have a huge impact on the effectiveness of their battery mate. I’m on board 100% with the notion that CS% is only one factor in evaluating catchers holistically. Since Yadi became the Cardinals catcher one things that I’ve always touted to people is the value he brings by decreasing the number of attempts against the Cardinals. I’d much rather have a catcher that only throws out 25% of 70 SB attempts than a catcher that throws out 40% of 110 SB attempts.

I’ll look forward to your analysis of the pitchers, which have a huge impact on the effectiveness of their battery mate.

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